In a comment from a Qt Nokia engineer:

Qt on the desktop is currently not a priority for our R&D team, even though Nokia does use Qt for desktop applications (and not only Qt Creator). That doesn’t mean that nobody is working on it, however we do believe that Qt is a great development tool for desktop applications, even if we just maintain it and keep it working on the desktop platforms. We definitely want to keep it that way, and we continue to improve and modernize Qt on the desktop as well, but I personally don’t really see that there are a lot of new features we could add to make Qt significantly more powerful for desktop development (esp features that are already provided by other libraries – why cannibalize our own community?).

Perhaps obvious and expected, but are we okay with this admission?

February 19, 2011 · [Print]

12 Comments to “Nokia Admits to not Focusing on Desktop Qt”

  1. Brad Hards says:

    Its a statement of fact (well, perhaps informed opinion), and you said its “obvious and expected”, so the other option is that they don’t tell you the truth.

    I can’t see how you could be okay with anything else.

  2. Sekar says:

    He is just being honest. Saying anything else would have made it PR-speak.

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  4. Morty says:

    Nothing special or earth-shattering about that comment, and not actually anything specially linked to the latest events. And defiantly nothing indicating any change or loss for desktop Qt, so a “the sky is falling” reaction is not required here.

    Fact is Nokia is huge, and when they focus on something they can apply lots of resources. And when not “focusing” something they still can, compared to others, apply sizable resources.

    I would venture to guess there are in the ballpark of 100 people working on documentation, support, development and other task related to desktop Qt.

  5. Ormaaj says:

    Well there was the talk a while back about in the distant future more modularization of KDE by moving kdelibs features upstream where it makes sense to do so… the stuff that’s most generally useful for all Qt applications rather than KDE-specific.

  6. Markus says:

    For me this doesn’t sound good. Nokia focusing mostly on features regarding mobile phones was one of my main concerns from the beginning.

    Features which are mostly important for the desktop are not as good as they could (should) be. One important area which comes to my mind is the whole printing stack.

  7. Antti says:

    I completely disagree — I think you’re mostly spreading FUD here. Nokia was clearly the best thing ever happening for Qt: going LGPL, huge increase in resources, multiplied use base. It should have been clear all the time that Nokia’s main concern was in mobile, but I see that it was simultaneously benefiting the desktop use case as well. Performance is critical in mobile environment, and that has increased in leaps and bounds even if we’re still waiting for the full fruit of QML and scenegraph.

    Have you tried QML yet? I firmly believe that there’s the future of desktop applications, too. I saw vohi’s post as reassuring and honest, and I was quite surprised that some people could read it in such a negative light.

  8. tbscope says:

    Antti,

    Nobody says that QML and focussing on the mobile platform is bad. I applaud it because I want to use Qt on the Apple iPad and on Android devices too.

    The problem is that instead of finishing existing solutions and improving them, they have put all their manpower on Qt Declarative. And I can respect that if time and resources are limited, there need to be priorities.

    However, at the moment, reality is very different.
    There will be no official supported Qt on the Apple iOS and on Android if there ever would be anyway. There’s a nice community effort though.

    The strength of Qt is the cross platform Desktop. It is what Qt made great. And I personally hoped Nokia would extend this to the mobile platforms too.

    This might indeed sound like a “the sky is falling” reaction or this might be FUD, but my opinion is that Qt is now reduced to a research project for a future Meego phone of some sort.

    Of course, Qt as it is now will still exist in 5 years and it is possible that in those 5 years it remains a very nice platform. But that doesn’t mean there’s a push behind it like there was with Trolltech and Nokia before going to Windows.
    This in turn means that if there will be no community efforts to improve Qt and if Nokia doesn’t want to apply the community efforts in their tree, Qt as it is now does not have any viable signs of life anymore. It will slowly bleed to dead and end up as a footnote in history. And I personally get very sad that the momentum and the technology of Qt get swiped away just like that.

    It’s a bit of luck that there exist a couple of important Qt Support enterprises that have a huge benefit from keeping Qt live on desktop computers.

  9. mark says:

    This is a troll comment from me – I predict that within 3 years KDE will be shattered, given that Qt will fade more and more from importance.

    I would like to read my comment 3 years later and see if I was correct with my prediction.

    Nokia has no business model for Qt anymore, hence no real NEED to improve Qt.

  10. Mark Doe says:

    sorry, waht you are talking about?

    Nokia who?

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